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	<title>Comments on: Want Middle East peace?  Next stop: Damascus</title>
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		<title>By: Across the Aisle &#187; Moral Hazard and the Olive Branch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Across the Aisle &#187; Moral Hazard and the Olive Branch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the Security Council.  I&#8217;ve personally blogged about the need to reach out to Iran, Syria and Cuba, and PSA recently put out a statement about renewing the U.S.-Russia relationship.  So I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas Borden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Borden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

You certainly are correct - the new administration will have to deal with the Israeli-Palestinian crisis far sooner that was anticipated.  However I disagree with your suggestion for the new administration to ignore the pressure to broker peace. A cooling down period for both sides will be required prior to any meaningful peace talks (yes another cease fire agreement).  My only hope is that a long-term peace is found.  I do not favor one side or the other.

As President Elect Obama has stated about the economy - opportunity may be found in time of crisis. Perhaps what is needed is a different way (I am sure that it is not a new idea) to look at this 60 year old crisis. 

Considering the history, there will be no lasting peace possible for the Palestinians if a peace proposal includes a boundary other than the original borders of Palestine. The Israelis will not agree to a proposal that does provide for their long-term security and sovereignty. 

My thoughts on a long-term solution includes the creation of a new country - to be known a Judea (or another biblical name for this land prior to both Israel and Palestine). This democratic country would be made up both Jews and Palestinians.  The political power-sharing agreement would have to achieve an equal balance between both parties.  There would be many hurdles to overcome - both parties have their extremists and both would balk initially.   This solution does provide the most important needs of both parties.  Of course, they would have to learn to live and tolerate each other.

As to what countries to help broker this peace accord, the USA, Syria and Egypt together would provide critical leverage over both parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>You certainly are correct &#8211; the new administration will have to deal with the Israeli-Palestinian crisis far sooner that was anticipated.  However I disagree with your suggestion for the new administration to ignore the pressure to broker peace. A cooling down period for both sides will be required prior to any meaningful peace talks (yes another cease fire agreement).  My only hope is that a long-term peace is found.  I do not favor one side or the other.</p>
<p>As President Elect Obama has stated about the economy &#8211; opportunity may be found in time of crisis. Perhaps what is needed is a different way (I am sure that it is not a new idea) to look at this 60 year old crisis. </p>
<p>Considering the history, there will be no lasting peace possible for the Palestinians if a peace proposal includes a boundary other than the original borders of Palestine. The Israelis will not agree to a proposal that does provide for their long-term security and sovereignty. </p>
<p>My thoughts on a long-term solution includes the creation of a new country &#8211; to be known a Judea (or another biblical name for this land prior to both Israel and Palestine). This democratic country would be made up both Jews and Palestinians.  The political power-sharing agreement would have to achieve an equal balance between both parties.  There would be many hurdles to overcome &#8211; both parties have their extremists and both would balk initially.   This solution does provide the most important needs of both parties.  Of course, they would have to learn to live and tolerate each other.</p>
<p>As to what countries to help broker this peace accord, the USA, Syria and Egypt together would provide critical leverage over both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Welcome &#124; Project on Middle East Democracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welcome &#124; Project on Middle East Democracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Landweber at Across the Aisle takes our minds off Gaza for a moment with this suggestion: &#8220;Putting aside the Palestinians, that leaves Israeli relations with Iran and Syria as the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Welcome &#124; Project on Middle East Democracy</title>
		<link>http://blog.psaonline.org/2009/01/05/want-middle-east-peace-next-stop-damascus/comment-page-1/#comment-1551914</link>
		<dc:creator>Welcome &#124; Project on Middle East Democracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Landweber at Across the Aisle takes our minds off Gaza for a moment with this suggestion: &#8220;Putting aside the Palestinians, that leaves Israeli relations with Iran and Syria as the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Landweber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Landweber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, you&#039;re right that any discussions about territory are going to be difficult in either negotiation.  But I don&#039;t believe that negotiations about the Golan Heights will touch the same raw emotions, for lack of a better word, that the right of return and the fate of Jerusalem do.  

I also agree that direct talks between Syria and Israel will have to wait at least six months after Gaza calms down.  But I do think that back channel discussions between the U.S. and Syria about what the U.S. is considering putting on the table can happen soon after Obama takes office.  That will be a necessary precursor to Syria-Israel talks anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, you&#8217;re right that any discussions about territory are going to be difficult in either negotiation.  But I don&#8217;t believe that negotiations about the Golan Heights will touch the same raw emotions, for lack of a better word, that the right of return and the fate of Jerusalem do.  </p>
<p>I also agree that direct talks between Syria and Israel will have to wait at least six months after Gaza calms down.  But I do think that back channel discussions between the U.S. and Syria about what the U.S. is considering putting on the table can happen soon after Obama takes office.  That will be a necessary precursor to Syria-Israel talks anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Rojansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Rojansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d agree with most of what you&#039;ve said, Mike, except that I&#039;m not sure Syria poses a less &quot;emotional&quot; dilemma for Israel, and is hence an easier sell from Jerusalem&#039;s perspective.  If you&#039;ve ever seen the proliferation of &quot;The People are with the Golan&quot; bumper stickers in Israel, or visited the area, you&#039;ll understand that the obviously necessary territorial concession for an Israel-Syria peace deal is not an easy sell in Israel.  I think it would be particularly hard at a time like this when the constant rocket attacks from Gaza make it clear that withdrawal from territory--whatever collateral benefits it may offer--does reduce Israel&#039;s buffer zone against hostile neighbors.

You&#039;re certainly right that now is not the time for an Obama administration to stake any credibility on Israeli-Palestinian peacemaking.  You&#039;re probably right that Syria is a better prospect, if only because there&#039;s some kind of process in place, and willingness on the Syrian side to talk with Israel.  But you&#039;re probably wrong that the new US Administration should bark up this tree any time soon.  Remember, as long as Palestinians are dying in Gaza, Assad is not free to make a deal.  The best result might actually be if Israel wins back just a bit of deterrent credibility by not massively bungling the ground invasion, and can then take up serious negotiations with Syria six months or a year from now.  That&#039;s a huge maybe though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d agree with most of what you&#8217;ve said, Mike, except that I&#8217;m not sure Syria poses a less &#8220;emotional&#8221; dilemma for Israel, and is hence an easier sell from Jerusalem&#8217;s perspective.  If you&#8217;ve ever seen the proliferation of &#8220;The People are with the Golan&#8221; bumper stickers in Israel, or visited the area, you&#8217;ll understand that the obviously necessary territorial concession for an Israel-Syria peace deal is not an easy sell in Israel.  I think it would be particularly hard at a time like this when the constant rocket attacks from Gaza make it clear that withdrawal from territory&#8211;whatever collateral benefits it may offer&#8211;does reduce Israel&#8217;s buffer zone against hostile neighbors.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re certainly right that now is not the time for an Obama administration to stake any credibility on Israeli-Palestinian peacemaking.  You&#8217;re probably right that Syria is a better prospect, if only because there&#8217;s some kind of process in place, and willingness on the Syrian side to talk with Israel.  But you&#8217;re probably wrong that the new US Administration should bark up this tree any time soon.  Remember, as long as Palestinians are dying in Gaza, Assad is not free to make a deal.  The best result might actually be if Israel wins back just a bit of deterrent credibility by not massively bungling the ground invasion, and can then take up serious negotiations with Syria six months or a year from now.  That&#8217;s a huge maybe though.</p>
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